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Luke Doty.  I listened to the game on the radio.  At one point Tommy pointed out that Doty's passes have a mainly flat trajectory because of the power in his arm.  Bentley, Hilinski, and Collyn Hill all had distance and the right amount of arc to drop their passes into the end zone.  Not sure how this will impact us, but it's something I have never thought about until I heard it mentioned yesterday.

Damani Staley.  Although Brown's miscue at the end zone at the end is receiving all the attention right now, this was the second fumble recovery that Staley has lost possession of this season.  You could just say fall on the damn ball like you're supposed to, but I believe our defense is keenly aware of our offense's scoring difficulties and that may have something to do with it.  However, I will say, "Just fall on the damned ball next time. "  LOL

Defensive TDs.  Our defense has scored 3 TDs so far this season.  That's great.  Unfortunately our offense has only scored 9 TDs: 8 passing, 1 rushing.  Only 4 total TDs in the last four games. though.

Home attendance.  Official attendance for the Troy game was 60,686.  That's a really good number considering everything, including Covid, that's going on right now.

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45 minutes ago, kingofnerf said:

Luke Doty.  I listened to the game on the radio.  At one point Tommy pointed out that Doty's passes have a mainly flat trajectory because of the power in his arm.  Bentley, Hilinski, and Collyn Hill all had distance and the right amount of arc to drop their passes into the end zone.  Not sure how this will impact us, but it's something I have never thought about until I heard it mentioned yesterday.

Damani Staley.  Although Brown's miscue at the end zone at the end is receiving all the attention right now, this was the second fumble recovery that Staley has lost possession of this season.  You could just say fall on the damn ball like you're supposed to, but I believe our defense is keenly aware of our offense's scoring difficulties and that may have something to do with it.  However, I will say, "Just fall on the damned ball next time. "  LOL

Defensive TDs.  Our defense has scored 3 TDs so far this season.  That's great.  Unfortunately our offense has only scored 9 TDs: 8 passing, 1 rushing.  Only 4 total TDs in the last four games. though.

Home attendance.  Official attendance for the Troy game was 60,686.  That's a really good number considering everything, including Covid, that's going on right now.

I was at the Citadel game yesterday so have not had a chance to watch yesterday’s game yet.  I will say last week on the roll-out pass into the end zone, Doty put the perfect touch on that pass and placed it perfectly.  I will watch today to see if I notice what Tommy is talking about. 

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I expect with more coaching, practice, and game time that Doty will improve.  Probably not as quickly as we want but he should.   Some of the penalties are inexcusable, mostly the ones on the OL.   Those shouldn’t still be an issue at this point but for some reason they still are.   Don’t know if it’s coaching style, lack of attention to detail, focus, or talent.  Probably some of all that.   Defensive turnovers are a pleasant surprise to this season so far.   Defense is definitely doing enough for us to be successful.  

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1 hour ago, Cockybusiness said:

Question for the board. Are the offensive coaches in over their heads? Is the talent on SEC defenses too much for their coaching talent?

Just a couple of questions.

Offense is a mess. Not yet to me on the staff, lets play it out. who knows what to expect. Lack of talent etc etc. Clemson offense is a little better but look at their issues. Same coaches just different players. 

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1 hour ago, Cockybusiness said:

Question for the board. Are the offensive coaches in over their heads? Is the talent on SEC defenses too much for their coaching talent?

Just a couple of questions.

Maybe a case of some of the players in over their head ie talent.  We have been working on these schemes since the spring.  Dropped passes continue to plague us.   Probably need at least 2-3 years with these coaches, let's see how they recruit.  Going to need improvements starting this weekend and that  includes penalties if we want to see a win.

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16 hours ago, Cockybusiness said:

Question for the board. Are the offensive coaches in over their heads? Is the talent on SEC defenses too much for their coaching talent?

Just a couple of questions.

The biggest problem for South Carolina football, we don't have the Jimmie and Joe's  to play the X'S  and O'S.  Say all you want about the coaches but hey the talent is not there .  The scheme could be too much for the O line.  and it  just might be an little of coaching here and there.  With that said Tennessee will roll will win by 21 at least .  

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Just now, The Bear said:

Hey, you kidding me we need an whole new offensive line, of 5 

 

15 hours ago, FeatheredCock said:

Offense is a mess. Not yet to me on the staff, lets play it out. who knows what to expect. Lack of talent etc etc. Clemson offense is a little better but look at their issues. Same coaches just different players. 

Yes, every  year let's play it out, how about getting some talent in Columbia for the O line, like 5 star kids who want to start right away . The coaches  are o.k.  if you don't have the talent it will not work. 

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17 hours ago, Cockybusiness said:

Question for the board. Are the offensive coaches in over their heads? Is the talent on SEC defenses too much for their coaching talent?

Just a couple of questions.

Yes , it called talent for the O line.  and players needed that's  the issue no big time guys on the O line. 

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Just now, The Bear said:

 

Yes, every  year let's play it out, how about getting some talent in Columbia for the O line, like 5 star kids who want to start right away . The coaches  are o.k.  if you don't have the talent it will not work. 

Not going to get it this year for sure. 

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16 hours ago, Longhaul said:

1st year coaching staff taking over a team that won 2 games last year.  4 games in. Way too early to make any definitive statements here.   Saw you mention making a change in another thread.   Seems premature to me. 

What change we just need talented players  that's it .  

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37 minutes ago, The Bear said:

 

Yes, every  year let's play it out, how about getting some talent in Columbia for the O line, like 5 star kids who want to start right away . The coaches  are o.k.  if you don't have the talent it will not work. 

The number of kids that are ranked as 5 star o-lineman ready to play as soon as they hit campus is a very short list and they generally go to the top programs in the country.  Very tough for a high school kid to show up on campus and start right away so a program with the level we are playing at right now will guys that need some time to develop their bodies and put on the weight needed to play at this level.  My comment about change was responding to the question asked above.  This is basically the same line that blocked for Harris to gain 1,100 yards last year so apparently the adjustment to new blocking schemes and offense if not going very well at this moment.  

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2 hours ago, The Bear said:

Yes , it called talent for the O line.  and players needed that's  the issue no big time guys on the O line. 

They are all highly rated 4-star types on the OL, and they opened holes for the SEC leading rusher last year. The problem isn't o-line talent, it has to do with either the new coaching or the scheme or both. And if all it took was stars, we'd be in great shape, because based on stars alone that line is very talented.

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53 minutes ago, USCGMCK said:

Random thoughts

If the receivers we have would catch a few that would help. Vann can't do it alone others need to step up.

A little early concerning staff ability, I think its player ability right now.

^^THESE.  The OL doesn't have to be perfect every down, but they have to be consistent enough to protect the QB so he can make the right throw.  A WR doesn't have to catch all passes, but enough of the right ones at the right time.

We could have probably beat UK if those two things had happened.

Losing seasons are tough on players and people are gonna talk.  It sounds like we had a very divided locker room before this season.

The "love" stuff sounds a little goofy at first glance, but it's probably a big deal that the locker room is united right now.

Sometimes a simple thing that's wrong will give you the impression there are more complicated problems.  

Our players are still the wild card this season to me, but we're going to have to take it one game at a time.  I still think the silver lining of narrow wins against ECU and Troy is the team has been brought down to reality of how things will be if they don't find a way to play better.

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Our defense last year was doodoo. Yet this year seems to be turned around. Our offense was rough last year and still is. At what point are we what we are on offense? If the lightbulb hasn’t turned on, will it? We show bits and pieces but never consistent to generate TDs. 

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3 hours ago, Swayin said:

They are all highly rated 4-star types on the OL, and they opened holes for the SEC leading rusher last year. The problem isn't o-line talent, it has to do with either the new coaching or the scheme or both. And if all it took was stars, we'd be in great shape, because based on stars alone that line is very talented.

really, it's always the coaching here at South Carolina how about talent, should take out billboards on the interstate offensive linemen needed at South Carolina Gamecocks please apply .   They are awful with some bad coaching as well the scheme must be too much they can't play football and think at the same time. 

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3 minutes ago, TKE226 said:

Our defense last year was doodoo. Yet this year seems to be turned around. Our offense was rough last year and still is. At what point are we what we are on offense? If the lightbulb hasn’t turned on, will it? We show bits and pieces but never consistent to generate TDs. 

yes, well Doty needs to ask the O line  to bend over at the bench and  kick them in the ass with his foot terrible people are running thru the holes and it's not our running backs.  

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