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On 4/28/2021 at 5:48 AM, doublea1971 said:

To say it another way, @Swayin won't be swayed.

Probably not, lol - but I will say this: I hope with every fiber of my garnet-colored being that Frank crushes it next year and that 10 years from now we will ALL be able to look back and say he was the best coach we ever had.

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19 hours ago, Swayin said:

Probably not, lol - but I will say this: I hope with every fiber of my garnet-colored being that Frank crushes it next year and that 10 years from now we will ALL be able to look back and say he was the best coach we ever had.

@Swayin... That's great to hear you say.  I couldn't agree more.  I'm a Frank fan through and through, so you won't hear me complaining about the man (for the most part).  He's got his rough spots, but don't we all?  I'm pulling for him next year, believing that he can put together (and IS putting together) a squad that can compete and get themselves back to the NCAA tourney.  If he does not do so, I have been on public record in this forum as having said that I'm fine with USC parting ways with him at that point.

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On 4/27/2021 at 7:41 PM, Swayin said:

I guess I would say that it is wasting time to convince anyone of anything when they are sure that a guy who has been to the tourney once in his last eight attempts, has a losing record here, a losing conference record here, and just finished the season with 2 SEC wins is "the best coach we have the possibility to hire." Either that or we should just #$%^can men's BB and take up water polo, because if that's the best we could possibly do, we are setting a new high bar for mediocrity.

The 2nd time you said he has a losing record here, 153-133 and we had 4 SEC wins this year, maybe you should not try and convince anyone of anything because you are clueless!

I did that hoping someone would bring up Dave Odom, so the other coach that had a record of proven post season success that we ran off, HOW DID THAT WORK OUT, HOW MUCH GREENER WAS THAT HORN GRASS????? I would have loved to see Odom lead the talent rich team of Archie, Downey, Muldrow, Frederick and Raley-Ross.... I also think the committee would have put us in the tourney had we not run Odom off instead Horn took us to the NIT despite winning 20 games and being tied for the second best record in the SEC but hey don't waste your time trying to understand, just whine and tell us how we should do better, can do better if we just fire our coach.

Once again who you going to hire that can recruit better talent, is more respected and has proven they can win with talent? Don't waste your time because you can't!

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1 hour ago, GMB2USC23 said:

The 2nd time you said he has a losing record here, 153-133 and we had 4 SEC wins this year, maybe you should not try and convince anyone of anything because you are clueless!

I did that hoping someone would bring up Dave Odom, so the other coach that had a record of proven post season success that we ran off, HOW DID THAT WORK OUT, HOW MUCH GREENER WAS THAT HORN GRASS????? I would have loved to see Odom lead the talent rich team of Archie, Downey, Muldrow, Frederick and Raley-Ross.... I also think the committee would have put us in the tourney had we not run Odom off instead Horn took us to the NIT despite winning 20 games and being tied for the second best record in the SEC but hey don't waste your time trying to understand, just whine and tell us how we should do better, can do better if we just fire our coach.

Once again who you going to hire that can recruit better talent, is more respected and has proven they can win with talent? Don't waste your time because you can't!

Fair enough about the overall record, I got my numbers swapped. As for being clueless, you are guy who can't refute a single point with facts that I made above about conference record, number of tournament appearances over the eight eligible years they could have gone, or your laughable "they get better as the season goes on" gibberish. All you have is an opinion; all I do is present numbers that your opinion does not refute. And who the $%^& said anything about that jackass loser Horn?

For the record, I'm not whining, by the way - I'm calmly presenting you with numbers while you flail about like a 9 year old; you are so clearly out of your depth. Lastly: Don't pretend that you know who we could hire to replace Frank should that occur, because you don't have the faintest idea. Neither do I. Nobody does with the possible exception of Ray.  But I do know we have good facilities in a good conference and a stout budget. Which I think could get us more than two conference wins. You feel that's the best we could possibly do, which is sad, much like the load of absolute crap you present as your reasons why that is the case.

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1 hour ago, GMB2USC23 said:

The 2nd time you said he has a losing record here, 153-133 and we had 4 SEC wins this year, maybe you should not try and convince anyone of anything because you are clueless!

I did that hoping someone would bring up Dave Odom, so the other coach that had a record of proven post season success that we ran off, HOW DID THAT WORK OUT, HOW MUCH GREENER WAS THAT HORN GRASS????? I would have loved to see Odom lead the talent rich team of Archie, Downey, Muldrow, Frederick and Raley-Ross.... I also think the committee would have put us in the tourney had we not run Odom off instead Horn took us to the NIT despite winning 20 games and being tied for the second best record in the SEC but hey don't waste your time trying to understand, just whine and tell us how we should do better, can do better if we just fire our coach.

Once again who you going to hire that can recruit better talent, is more respected and has proven they can win with talent? Don't waste your time because you can't!

Do you want my top 5 or 10?

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On 3/26/2021 at 11:32 AM, doublea1971 said:

Call me crazy... but here are some names I'd look at:

  • Porter Moser (Loyola-Chicago) EDIT: Took the job at Oklahoma on 4/2/21.
  • Kyle Keller (Stephen F. Austin),
  • Kellen Sampson (Asst. @ Houston)

If we want to stay with known quantities, and play pay a significant salary:

  • Mark Turgeon (Maryland)
  • Steve Pikiel (Rutgers)
  • Shaka Smart (Texas) - EDIT: Took the job at Marquette as of noon-ish on 3/26/21.

Long shots, due to their records, but worth an interesting look:

  • Maurice Joseph (Asst. @ Fairleigh Dickinson)
  • Ed Cooley (Providence)
  • Jeff Capel (Pitt)

 

2 minutes ago, Swayin said:

Fair enough about the overall record, I got my numbers swapped. As for being clueless, you are guy who can't refute a single point with facts that I made above about conference record, number of tournament appearances over the eight eligible years they could have gone, or your laughable "they get better as the season goes on" gibberish. All you have is an opinion; all I do is present numbers that your opinion does not refute. And who the $%^& said anything about that jackass loser Horn?

For the record, I'm not whining, by the way - I'm calmly presenting you with numbers while you flail about like a 9 year old; you are so clearly out of your depth. Lastly: Don't pretend that you know who we could hire to replace Frank should that occur, because you don't have the faintest idea. Neither do I. Nobody does with the possible exception of Ray.  But I do know we have good facilities in a good conference and a stout budget. Which I think could get us more than two conference wins. You feel that's the best we could possibly do, which is sad, much like the load of absolute crap you present as your reasons why that is the case.

See my post in the thread (quoted above)... those are some of the names I would recommend chasing after, should we need to.

 

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On 4/30/2021 at 10:46 AM, Swayin said:

Fair enough about the overall record, I got my numbers swapped. As for being clueless, you are guy who can't refute a single point with facts that I made above about conference record, number of tournament appearances over the eight eligible years they could have gone, or your laughable "they get better as the season goes on" gibberish. All you have is an opinion; all I do is present numbers that your opinion does not refute. And who the $%^& said anything about that jackass loser Horn?

For the record, I'm not whining, by the way - I'm calmly presenting you with numbers while you flail about like a 9 year old; you are so clearly out of your depth. Lastly: Don't pretend that you know who we could hire to replace Frank should that occur, because you don't have the faintest idea. Neither do I. Nobody does with the possible exception of Ray.  But I do know we have good facilities in a good conference and a stout budget. Which I think could get us more than two conference wins. You feel that's the best we could possibly do, which is sad, much like the load of absolute crap you present as your reasons why that is the case.

All you have is an opinion, all anyone has is an opinion and I think your opinion sucks and is clueless! The first group of numbers, facts as you want to call them were incorrect so I did not look much further, your bad! 

I do not need to refute your awful opinion, you would be one of the guys that forced McGuire into retirement telling everyone how we could get someone better, our facilities are better than not making the NCAA tourney every year and he never finished under .500! We did not win a tourney game until we hired Martin and you want him to be gone after a year in which he battled a pandemic. CHEW on this, we have been in the SEC since 1992 and Martin has finished over .500 in conference more times than all other coaches combined, similar to NCAA victories, Martin with 4 all other coaches 4... WOW!!! Your idiotic statement that you think our facilities, conference and budget could get us more than 2 wins and that I think that is the best we could do is just stupid, dumb, ignorant when you think about Coach Martin being the most successful coach in our history, you would like to go another 30 years without an NCAA win chasing the next coach who would then be chasing the legacy of Martin, CLUELESS! 

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29 minutes ago, GMB2USC23 said:

 

All you have is an opinion, all anyone has is an opinion and I think your opinion sucks and is clueless! The first group of numbers, facts as you want to call them were incorrect so I did not look much further, your bad! 

I do not need to refute your awful opinion, you would be one of the guys that forced McGuire into retirement telling everyone how we could get someone better, our facilities are better than not making the NCAA tourney every year and he never finished under .500! We did not win a tourney game until we hired Martin and you want him to be gone after a year in which he battled a pandemic. CHEW on this, we have been in the SEC since 1992 and Martin has finished over .500 in conference more times than all other coaches combined, similar to NCAA victories, Martin with 4 all other coaches 4... WOW!!! Your idiotic statement that you think our facilities, conference and budget could get us more than 2 wins and that I think that is the best we could do is just stupid, dumb, ignorant when you think about Coach Martin being the most successful coach in our history, you would like to go another 30 years without an NCAA win chasing the next coach who would then be chasing the legacy of Martin, CLUELESS! 

I realized late in the game that:

A. You really and truly are a moron.

B. That presenting facts, like "Frank has taken us to the tournament once in the eight years he was eligible to do so" only seems to whip you into a froth of "but Horn" and "you can't convince me." Usually compounded with as many exclamation marks and words in all-caps as you can slap down, as if those substitute for facts.

So further effort to educate someone who clearly has no ability to digest the most basic facts and reasoning is pointless - enjoy the thread. You're not worth the effort.

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16 hours ago, Swayin said:

I realized late in the game that:

A. You really and truly are a moron.

B. That presenting facts, like "Frank has taken us to the tournament once in the eight years he was eligible to do so" only seems to whip you into a froth of "but Horn" and "you can't convince me." Usually compounded with as many exclamation marks and words in all-caps as you can slap down, as if those substitute for facts.

So further effort to educate someone who clearly has no ability to digest the most basic facts and reasoning is pointless - enjoy the thread. You're not worth the effort.

You couldn't educate my little niece on basketball, now take your analytics, get out your mothers basement and go outside for a spell, maybe learn how to play the game of basketball a little, idiot! 

It would be a lot easier for you to say you don't have a clue who we could hire than ranting at me like an idiot! The fact is we went from 1973 to 2017 before we won an NCAA tourney game, we were moments from going to the NCAA title game and you would like to run the coach that accomplished this out of town, that makes you a huge DUMBASS in my book! 

I will ask you and everyone on this thread who are you going to hire that is a better recruiter, better coach and more respected coach than Frank Martin... Or you could spit your facts and show how demonstrative you can be towards those who disagree with your OPINION! 

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