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Since I'm often accused of being a Democrat, as they swing farther towards Warren and the insane left and the gop spends less and less time talking about not spending money we don't have, I'm not sure there's a place for reason in American politics. Not much room for moderates these days I guess

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1 hour ago, Sporkgod50 said:

Since I'm often accused of being a Democrat, as they swing farther towards Warren and the insane left and the gop spends less and less time talking about not spending money we don't have, I'm not sure there's a place for reason in American politics. Not much room for moderates these days I guess

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What does anyone like about any political party? 

The overt and inherent  hypocrisy, placing party over country, the undeniable ignorance in thinking there are only two sides or solutions to any complex multi-layered issue, the celebrating of division and partisan politics, associating with the simpletons and extremists from either fringe, etc?

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29 minutes ago, LBC said:

What does anyone like about any political party? 

The overt and inherent  hypocrisy, placing party over country, the undeniable ignorance in thinking there are only two sides or solutions to any complex multi-layered issue, the celebrating of division and partisan politics, associating with the simpletons and extremists from either fringe, etc?

plenty of people are most comfortable with black and white situations and feel uncomfortable with realities that are tough to easily categorize. Two party systems are the opium of the masses?

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1 hour ago, LBC said:

What does anyone like about any political party? 

The overt and inherent  hypocrisy, placing party over country, the undeniable ignorance in thinking there are only two sides or solutions to any complex multi-layered issue, the celebrating of division and partisan politics, associating with the simpletons and extremists from either fringe, etc?

Mindless masses 

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There is much to be said about both Republicans and the Socialist Democratic Party.  The old line Republicans in DC pure tee hate President Trump and want things to go back to everyone having a "cushy job" and making a pretty good living off the taxpayers of the USA.  The Socialist Democrats can't agree on anything with the President and helping to improve the nation anymore (or at least since President Trump has been in office), but they are sprinting towards some kind of line to see who can "out-crazy - the next - candidate - with - some - other - type - of - give - away - program"????  I wonder where they think they can get this money from???  The Govt only has money from what it can tax the people from their paychecks and investments.  The Socialist Democrats want more and more of that each time they open their mouths!!!!  They will eventually go after your private saving if they ever get control of the White House/Senate/Congress/Representatives.  They don't say this now publicly, but it has been on their hit list since the days of the Clinton's.

I am a Conservative Independent after being  "mindless Democrat for a long time".  I vote for the best person suited for the job, but only after checking out their backgrounds and not what you read or see in the liberal media mob that are only concerned in what President Trump did while he was in the bathroom while talking to Putin???   Seriously, could someone please show me where Socialism works and what country is thriving from it's socialist views both economic wise and in the world markets today???  Also, can someone please tell me why that we need "more and more govt interference in our jobs/lives/religion/education-etc" when they can't get together on the most simple of tasks in Washington, DC today????  Classic example - billions of dollars spent on education since the 60's and our education system is terrible for most of the nation and the Democrats and Teacher's Union simply cry out for more money and everything will be OK in time????  That sounds like the one "the check is in the mail - I want c*m in your mouth and I only want to put the he*d of it in"????  Look at California, those people are crazier than a shit house rat and sensible parents are moving out by the ten of thousands each year???  Open borders, do away with ICE, we have more people "illegally on govt sub-substance now than any time in our history" and I can get pull over for going down a hill not far from my house for maybe going 12 miles over the speed limit and written a big ticket????  I honestly thought years ago that the Democratic Party cared about this country and that meant all of us (black, white, legal people of color, women, etc), but all they care about are there high profile - power - positions - and to hell with the rest of us.  Democrats don't want border walls along our southern borders to keep out drug dealers, sex traffic pimps, and terrorist, but yet at the same time Speaker Pelosi and Adam Shiff and many other high ranking Demorats live in "Walled Villages With Armed Guards" and yet they want to take our guns from us???  Sounds like  a little "double speak" on their part!!!  Also, if Nancy Pelosi gets another face lift - she will have a permanent beard!!!!  Republicans are not without guilt as they are a lot of "Fat Rats In Washington That Hate President Trump" and they want no part of his "draining the swamp" as they would all lose their great jobs and have to work like the rest of us deplorables  for a living!!!!  How about all of the "Large Cities That Have Been Run By Democrats For Many, Many, Years, but are just cesspools of misery/murder/drugs/failing school systems/and no economy"???  These are Democratic Run Cities and yet these morons want more and more power???  People in this nation need to wake up and just think and reason out the facts for yourself and you will become like I did many years ago when I quit drinking all the "Cool-Aide" and started thinking what was best for me and my family and state.  Believe me, I was totally brain-washed by the Democratic Message until I took off those "Rose Colored Glasses" and started thinking like a free-intelligent-man and making my own choices and decisions and have never looked back.  I am not say that the Republican Party is perfect by no means as they have their demons in their closets too, but many of them are good people and are working for the betterment of all men and women in this country and to enforce the laws of the land.

It is hard to argue with what President Trump has done for our nation with having to fight the Demorats with one hand behind his back.  Now after all of it is been proving to be just a hoax that was paid for by HRC and the DNC, the truth may finally come out and the people involved in the coup to unseat a duly elected president will all go to jail just like you or I would if we had committed these crimes against our nation!!!!  I hope Attorney General William Barr gets everyone of these traitors and they all lose everything that they have in life due to their treason and abuse of power against an elected President.  I would say this if it had happened to Obama or Bush # 2.  Right is right and wrong is wrong and if you can honestly sit there and say these a group of 7, 8, or more were not highly involved in this coup to remove a duly elected president, then there is no hope left in trying to run our country like it has always been ran since our forefathers put our constitution together and the Original 13 Colonies ratified it's powers.  GOD help us if we don't!!!

Winston Churchill once stated this: "If you are not a liberal in your twenties, then you have no heart, and if you are not a conservative by your thirties you have no brain"!!!!  I think the man made a lot of sense back then and his words ring volumes of knowledge today for those of us who will listen.

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9 hours ago, dreammachine said:

There is much to be said about both Republicans and the Socialist Democratic Party.  The old line Republicans in DC pure tee hate President Trump and want things to go back to everyone having a "cushy job" and making a pretty good living off the taxpayers of the USA.  The Socialist Democrats can't agree on anything with the President and helping to improve the nation anymore (or at least since President Trump has been in office), but they are sprinting towards some kind of line to see who can "out-crazy - the next - candidate - with - some - other - type - of - give - away - program"????  I wonder where they think they can get this money from???  The Govt only has money from what it can tax the people from their paychecks and investments.  The Socialist Democrats want more and more of that each time they open their mouths!!!!  They will eventually go after your private saving if they ever get control of the White House/Senate/Congress/Representatives.  They don't say this now publicly, but it has been on their hit list since the days of the Clinton's.

I am a Conservative Independent after being  "mindless Democrat for a long time".  I vote for the best person suited for the job, but only after checking out their backgrounds and not what you read or see in the liberal media mob that are only concerned in what President Trump did while he was in the bathroom while talking to Putin???   Seriously, could someone please show me where Socialism works and what country is thriving from it's socialist views both economic wise and in the world markets today???  Also, can someone please tell me why that we need "more and more govt interference in our jobs/lives/religion/education-etc" when they can't get together on the most simple of tasks in Washington, DC today????  Classic example - billions of dollars spent on education since the 60's and our education system is terrible for most of the nation and the Democrats and Teacher's Union simply cry out for more money and everything will be OK in time????  That sounds like the one "the check is in the mail - I want c*m in your mouth and I only want to put the he*d of it in"????  Look at California, those people are crazier than a shit house rat and sensible parents are moving out by the ten of thousands each year???  Open borders, do away with ICE, we have more people "illegally on govt sub-substance now than any time in our history" and I can get pull over for going down a hill not far from my house for maybe going 12 miles over the speed limit and written a big ticket????  I honestly thought years ago that the Democratic Party cared about this country and that meant all of us (black, white, legal people of color, women, etc), but all they care about are there high profile - power - positions - and to hell with the rest of us.  Democrats don't want border walls along our southern borders to keep out drug dealers, sex traffic pimps, and terrorist, but yet at the same time Speaker Pelosi and Adam Shiff and many other high ranking Demorats live in "Walled Villages With Armed Guards" and yet they want to take our guns from us???  Sounds like  a little "double speak" on their part!!!  Also, if Nancy Pelosi gets another face lift - she will have a permanent beard!!!!  Republicans are not without guilt as they are a lot of "Fat Rats In Washington That Hate President Trump" and they want no part of his "draining the swamp" as they would all lose their great jobs and have to work like the rest of us deplorables  for a living!!!!  How about all of the "Large Cities That Have Been Run By Democrats For Many, Many, Years, but are just cesspools of misery/murder/drugs/failing school systems/and no economy"???  These are Democratic Run Cities and yet these morons want more and more power???  People in this nation need to wake up and just think and reason out the facts for yourself and you will become like I did many years ago when I quit drinking all the "Cool-Aide" and started thinking what was best for me and my family and state.  Believe me, I was totally brain-washed by the Democratic Message until I took off those "Rose Colored Glasses" and started thinking like a free-intelligent-man and making my own choices and decisions and have never looked back.  I am not say that the Republican Party is perfect by no means as they have their demons in their closets too, but many of them are good people and are working for the betterment of all men and women in this country and to enforce the laws of the land.

It is hard to argue with what President Trump has done for our nation with having to fight the Demorats with one hand behind his back.  Now after all of it is been proving to be just a hoax that was paid for by HRC and the DNC, the truth may finally come out and the people involved in the coup to unseat a duly elected president will all go to jail just like you or I would if we had committed these crimes against our nation!!!!  I hope Attorney General William Barr gets everyone of these traitors and they all lose everything that they have in life due to their treason and abuse of power against an elected President.  I would say this if it had happened to Obama or Bush # 2.  Right is right and wrong is wrong and if you can honestly sit there and say these a group of 7, 8, or more were not highly involved in this coup to remove a duly elected president, then there is no hope left in trying to run our country like it has always been ran since our forefathers put our constitution together and the Original 13 Colonies ratified it's powers.  GOD help us if we don't!!!

Winston Churchill once stated this: "If you are not a liberal in your twenties, then you have no heart, and if you are not a conservative by your thirties you have no brain"!!!!  I think the man made a lot of sense back then and his words ring volumes of knowledge today for those of us who will listen.

There is certainly a lot to unpack here but before we move forward you said... "I vote for the best person suited for the job, but only after checking out their backgrounds"....can you explain why you decided to skip this important step this time around?

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10 hours ago, dreammachine said:

There is much to be said about both Republicans and the Socialist Democratic Party.  The old line Republicans in DC pure tee hate President Trump and want things to go back to everyone having a "cushy job" and making a pretty good living off the taxpayers of the USA.  The Socialist Democrats can't agree on anything with the President and helping to improve the nation anymore (or at least since President Trump has been in office), but they are sprinting towards some kind of line to see who can "out-crazy - the next - candidate - with - some - other - type - of - give - away - program"????  I wonder where they think they can get this money from???  The Govt only has money from what it can tax the people from their paychecks and investments.  The Socialist Democrats want more and more of that each time they open their mouths!!!!  They will eventually go after your private saving if they ever get control of the White House/Senate/Congress/Representatives.  They don't say this now publicly, but it has been on their hit list since the days of the Clinton's.

I am a Conservative Independent after being  "mindless Democrat for a long time".  I vote for the best person suited for the job, but only after checking out their backgrounds and not what you read or see in the liberal media mob that are only concerned in what President Trump did while he was in the bathroom while talking to Putin???   Seriously, could someone please show me where Socialism works and what country is thriving from it's socialist views both economic wise and in the world markets today???  Also, can someone please tell me why that we need "more and more govt interference in our jobs/lives/religion/education-etc" when they can't get together on the most simple of tasks in Washington, DC today????  Classic example - billions of dollars spent on education since the 60's and our education system is terrible for most of the nation and the Democrats and Teacher's Union simply cry out for more money and everything will be OK in time????  That sounds like the one "the check is in the mail - I want c*m in your mouth and I only want to put the he*d of it in"????  Look at California, those people are crazier than a shit house rat and sensible parents are moving out by the ten of thousands each year???  Open borders, do away with ICE, we have more people "illegally on govt sub-substance now than any time in our history" and I can get pull over for going down a hill not far from my house for maybe going 12 miles over the speed limit and written a big ticket????  I honestly thought years ago that the Democratic Party cared about this country and that meant all of us (black, white, legal people of color, women, etc), but all they care about are there high profile - power - positions - and to hell with the rest of us.  Democrats don't want border walls along our southern borders to keep out drug dealers, sex traffic pimps, and terrorist, but yet at the same time Speaker Pelosi and Adam Shiff and many other high ranking Demorats live in "Walled Villages With Armed Guards" and yet they want to take our guns from us???  Sounds like  a little "double speak" on their part!!!  Also, if Nancy Pelosi gets another face lift - she will have a permanent beard!!!!  Republicans are not without guilt as they are a lot of "Fat Rats In Washington That Hate President Trump" and they want no part of his "draining the swamp" as they would all lose their great jobs and have to work like the rest of us deplorables  for a living!!!!  How about all of the "Large Cities That Have Been Run By Democrats For Many, Many, Years, but are just cesspools of misery/murder/drugs/failing school systems/and no economy"???  These are Democratic Run Cities and yet these morons want more and more power???  People in this nation need to wake up and just think and reason out the facts for yourself and you will become like I did many years ago when I quit drinking all the "Cool-Aide" and started thinking what was best for me and my family and state.  Believe me, I was totally brain-washed by the Democratic Message until I took off those "Rose Colored Glasses" and started thinking like a free-intelligent-man and making my own choices and decisions and have never looked back.  I am not say that the Republican Party is perfect by no means as they have their demons in their closets too, but many of them are good people and are working for the betterment of all men and women in this country and to enforce the laws of the land.

It is hard to argue with what President Trump has done for our nation with having to fight the Demorats with one hand behind his back.  Now after all of it is been proving to be just a hoax that was paid for by HRC and the DNC, the truth may finally come out and the people involved in the coup to unseat a duly elected president will all go to jail just like you or I would if we had committed these crimes against our nation!!!!  I hope Attorney General William Barr gets everyone of these traitors and they all lose everything that they have in life due to their treason and abuse of power against an elected President.  I would say this if it had happened to Obama or Bush # 2.  Right is right and wrong is wrong and if you can honestly sit there and say these a group of 7, 8, or more were not highly involved in this coup to remove a duly elected president, then there is no hope left in trying to run our country like it has always been ran since our forefathers put our constitution together and the Original 13 Colonies ratified it's powers.  GOD help us if we don't!!!

Winston Churchill once stated this: "If you are not a liberal in your twenties, then you have no heart, and if you are not a conservative by your thirties you have no brain"!!!!  I think the man made a lot of sense back then and his words ring volumes of knowledge today for those of us who will listen.

Fox news must've been lit this weekend

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11 hours ago, MFB said:

lol fact free maybe, wonder what he thinks the forefathers would think of the potus calling parts of the constitution phony and who knows how many different abuses of power 

I am sure a "political powerhouse thinker like you would know for sure"!  Please enlighten us?

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11 hours ago, LBC said:

He went from being a 'mindless Democrat' to being a 'mindless not very Independent thinking Conservative' with the grace and deftness of a young Mikhail Baryshnikov

Oh great and powerful political genius, please tell us poor souls that are lost just what our path should be as I am sure you are a "Borderline Genius", even if nobody ever tells you just how great you are???

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Apparently, they like their potential presidential candidates fanning the flames of racism. 

Biden : cops don't pull over white girls

Warren: The entire criminal justice system is racist

Berni: cops will shoot black kids in the back of the head for failing to follow instructions. 

How is any of this type of rhetoric useful in actually addressing the real problems of racism and implicit bias in our law enforcement?  By painting every single officer as a racist or a bigot, they are just fanning the flames and pushing their agenda of identity politics, regardless of the impact on the people they are supposed to represent.  

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10 hours ago, dreammachine said:

Oh great and powerful political genius, please tell us poor souls that are lost just what our path should be as I am sure you are a "Borderline Genius", even if nobody ever tells you just how great you are???

I'll be glad to have this discussing when I get the time and whenever you're ready but lets begin with stop believing and/or defending easily verifiable lies told by a habitual liar with a decades long history of criminal, fraudulent and undeniably reprehensible behavior and never trust a President who claims the parts of THE US CONSTITUTION that make his behavior and actions a crime are 'Phony'....regardless of party or political leanings

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I do know this, you truly suffer from "TDS", to a Rhodes Scholar like you this means "Trump - Delusional - Syndrome"!!!

Sore losers - cry babies - get over it (Hillary Lost).  Did I mention that you might want to take off those "Rose Colored Glasses" and think outside the box sometimes and stop allowing the Democratic Party to complete your life for you.  Look at your parties heroes.  Obama, Pelosi, Hillary "Lock Her Up" Clinton - Uncle Joe (Give My Son Millions) Biden and Shifty & Shumer???

I will say again, Republicans are not perfect, but they are far ahead of these lying, criminal, demo-rats.  The Truth Is Out There - Just Think Outside What They Tell You!!!

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10 hours ago, dreammachine said:

I do know this, you truly suffer from "TDS", to a Rhodes Scholar like you this means "Trump - Delusional - Syndrome"!!!

Sore losers - cry babies - get over it (Hillary Lost).  Did I mention that you might want to take off those "Rose Colored Glasses" and think outside the box sometimes and stop allowing the Democratic Party to complete your life for you.  Look at your parties heroes.  Obama, Pelosi, Hillary "Lock Her Up" Clinton - Uncle Joe (Give My Son Millions) Biden and Shifty & Shumer???

I will say again, Republicans are not perfect, but they are far ahead of these lying, criminal, demo-rats.  The Truth Is Out There - Just Think Outside What They Tell You!!!

You couldn't have proven my point more if you tried...the willful ignoring of easily provable facts coupled with this idea that one couldn't possibly take issue with habitual lying  and a fraud filled character free life unless you are a 'Democrat'...not to mention the robotic repeating of spoon fed talking points one gets from consuming nothing but far right pablum, etc.

But just to clarify things...I never voted for Hillary or Obama...either time. I have never been a Democrat...registered or otherwise...ever...it is not 'My Party'. In fact I have made the conscience decision to never have 'a party'. I have been a registered 'Independent' for over 30 years for a number of reasons...one of them has to do with this exact thing. Watching people openly compromise...among other things...their self-proclaimed 'Christian family Values', their self-respect, their moral character, their ability to deal with the truth, etc. for no other reason than party affiliation isn't patriotic...its sycophantic. 

If you support mostly Conservative or mostly Liberal ideals so you vote for the person who most represents those ideals...fine. If you vote for one candidate over the other simply because the other is far worse in your mind...'The lesser of two evils'...fine...but defending open and easily verifiable habitual lying and undeniably reprehensible, fraudulent, criminal, unconstitutional and other similar behavior with make believe party affiliation bullshit...laughable nonsense. 

 

 

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12 hours ago, dreammachine said:

I do know this, you truly suffer from "TDS", to a Rhodes Scholar like you this means "Trump - Delusional - Syndrome"!!!

Sore losers - cry babies - get over it (Hillary Lost).  Did I mention that you might want to take off those "Rose Colored Glasses" and think outside the box sometimes and stop allowing the Democratic Party to complete your life for you.  Look at your parties heroes.  Obama, Pelosi, Hillary "Lock Her Up" Clinton - Uncle Joe (Give My Son Millions) Biden and Shifty & Shumer???

I will say again, Republicans are not perfect, but they are far ahead of these lying, criminal, demo-rats.  The Truth Is Out There - Just Think Outside What They Tell You!!!

Hate to break it to you but just because you criticize Donald J Trump, a truly bad human being, doesn't mean you are a "demo-rat". I think TDS is a real thing but I think it is the people who will defend and even celebrate him despite everything that he has done, is doing and will continue to do. You talk about lying and criminal then turn around and blindly follow Trump off a cliff, pretty funny stuff

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1 minute ago, MFB said:

Hate to break it to you but just because you criticize Donald J Trump, a truly bad human being, doesn't mean you are a "demo-rat". I think TDS is a real thing but I think it is the people who will defend and even celebrate him despite everything that he has done, is doing and will continue to do. You talk about lying and criminal then turn around and blindly follow Trump off a cliff, pretty funny stuff

It definitely applies to people on both end of the aisle. There are dems so upset with Trump they will do anything/believe anything about him that is negative. 

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